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Say Something Jehovah's Witnessy........

by minimus in

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i know there's no such word as "witnessy" but this can be a fun thread.

Say Something Jehovah's Witnessy........

by minimus in

jw
friends

i know there's no such word as "witnessy" but this can be a fun thread.

Muddy Waters

What a great, yet infuriating, nauseating thread!

Some "newly inspired" expressions today would be:

The GOVERNING BODY...

The Governing Body has decided that...

The Governing Body warmly welcomes you...

The Governing Body loves you...

jw dot org

types & anti-types done away with ...

"celebrating 100 years of kingdom rule!" (especially said last year)

overlapping generations

blood fractions

Caleb & Sophia

Listen, Obey & Be Blessed

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If you "chose" this religion, as I did, do you remember the moment you "bought" the religion?

by Muddy Waters in

if you "chose" this religion, as i did, do you remember the moment you "bought", or believed, the religion?.

for me, it was during one of my studies with a knowledgeable, lovely pioneer sister who looked like her life was so perfect and wonderful.

i was coming out of a terrible situation in my life, very vulnerable, being abandoned by a husband during my pregnancy and with other little children to look after too.

Muddy Waters

If you "chose" this religion, as I did, do you remember the moment you "bought", or believed, the religion?

For me, it was during one of my studies with a knowledgeable, lovely pioneer sister who looked like her life was so perfect and wonderful.

I was coming out of a terrible situation in my life, very vulnerable, being abandoned by a husband during my pregnancy and with other little children to look after too. And wonder of wonders, I had been praying for God to help me and please give me some sign (ugh) - where are you, God?, etc. I was very young (20-ish) and very lost.

They don't get you trapped in their cult all at once though. Oh no. I had questions. I had objections. There were things that didn't make sense. Was told that I needed the spiritual milk before I could digest the spiritual "meat", etc. all that blah blah blah. And all the scriptures to back up these truths and explanations. Etc.

It really sounded lovely, and my life was such a mess. All I could see was darkness and pain behind me and the promises of a bright, beautiful, new, wonderful world in front of me. I wanted to be like this sister. So spiritual and good. Her life was so clean. Blah blah blah.

But I'd heard some things about the Jehovah's Witnesses of course, and my family and friends were really trying to get me to stay away from them. One of the things they brought up was 1975.

So I mentioned 1975 to this sister and asked her about it. By then, I'd come far into my "study" and knew about the verse in Deuteronomy about false prophets. (Deut. 18:22 - "When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him.")

Her answer? -- was the spiel about how even Jesus' disciples made mistakes, and how they were so eager for the kingdom they reached wrong conclusions - "... Are you restoring the kingdom to Isreal at this time, Lord..?"

I realized that her explanation was faulty and did not exactly explain the same situation, but I wanted to believe all those things so bad, they sounded so good. I think now that THIS was the moment I "bought" the religion, the moment I allowed myself to be led by their propaganda & explanations and to believe them - telling myself, like so many others, that even if they get some things wrong or didn't understand everything, it was still the best, the closest religion to the "truth", the best way of life more than anything else out there -- and then to become so indoctrinated that it would take me nearly 30 years to get out.

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Happy Birthday,Dogpatch

by Bangalore in

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happy birthday,dogpatch aka randy.hope you will have a great day.. bangalore.

Muddy Waters

I have been wondering how he is doing.... Does anybody know??

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Jesus had Nowhere to Lay his Head....

by Muddy Waters in

so jesus had nowhere to lay his head.

he had a huge following and reputation... with no tv, publishing company, big bethel house, branch offices, literature offers, requests for field service time, judicial committees held in secret star-chambers, disfellowshipping & shunning rules and big procedures for "reinstatement"... .

so why does wts do all these things??

Muddy Waters

Yes, cult, cult, cult. It's so mind-boggling to me now how I could not see that this was NOT the truth. Sigh. So brainwashed for so long..... :(

Thank you for your replies.

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Jesus had Nowhere to Lay his Head....

by Muddy Waters in

so jesus had nowhere to lay his head.

he had a huge following and reputation... with no tv, publishing company, big bethel house, branch offices, literature offers, requests for field service time, judicial committees held in secret star-chambers, disfellowshipping & shunning rules and big procedures for "reinstatement"... .

so why does wts do all these things??

Muddy Waters

So Jesus had nowhere to lay his head.

He had a huge following and reputation... with no TV, publishing company, big Bethel house, branch offices, literature offers, requests for field service time, judicial committees held in secret star-chambers, disfellowshipping & shunning rules and big procedures for "reinstatement"...

So why does WTS do all these things?? They are supposed to be "footstep followers" of the Christ.

Where does Jesus say to count time? Where does he say to go to meetings for 6 months to a year -or more!- to come back into fellowship with his believers if they should leave or be expelled?

Where is it written that meetings should be Watchtower studies?

Where is it written that "this good news of the kingdom" is a multi-billion dollar publishing & real-estate empire, with thousands of fancy, sparkling clean buildings (unless they contribute to, or are built upon toxic waste dumps), offices, assembly halls, Kingdom Halls, bethel buildings, translation offices, giant rolls of paper from sacrificed beautiful trees, TV studios, and a freaking WEBSITE, complete with new goddamned company name & logo, to advertise the new (and improved!!) "one and only means of salvation" -step right up folks and take a tract - and be sure to dress properly when y'all come to visit us - on our sparkly tennis courts & stuff -

... and Jesus had nowhere to lay his head.

Oy. I could go on & on ...

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The First Sparlock Novel is Free on Amazon (July 20-24)

by DT in

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friends

the great apocalypse has finally arrived!.

get your free copy here:.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/b011m755cc.

Muddy Waters

Thank you for making this available. Have downloaded it and will peruse!

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

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friends

let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

Muddy Waters

They are so creepy and spooky, talking with double tongues, speaking out of both sides of their mouth.... Saying one thing, doing another, explaining all this with love, warm Christian love and greetings, as they grab your cash and ask for more, as they say there are urgent needs for more KHs yet so many are being "under-utilized" that they need to combine halls.

Creepy, spooky stuff. And then they talk about a "master plan"!!! How very weird. Their whole language and focus is so absurd recently, even calling their New York location, "HEADQUARTERS" -

it's like they are a bunch of little boys playing in a tree fort (complete with "No Girls Allowed!") and they are super sleuths and spies and possess super skills, knowledge and intelligence (all from Jehovah, who powers their special, secret "Hercules" rings, ha) - and they go along, changing the rules where they wish or when it's best for them, and then they knock you down from their lofty tree-house heights and blow spitballs at you, too.

They make you build your own little tree-fort but they have the big house and make up all the rules. If your tree fort gets too big, they will cut you down.

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Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?

by KateWild in

hi guys,.

i might go to the meeting.

i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.

Muddy Waters

I recently walked into a KH thinking I was going to a friend's memorial service, but we had gotten the date wrong -- I walked into the WT study, lol, and immediately left, but you couldn't tell the difference, I swear. The mood was so quiet, serious, somber and boring, it could have been a memorial service.

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They dared !

by coalize in

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i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!

!.

Muddy Waters

and whatever happened to to ".... as we look with bright, shining, beaming faces... toward our God..." (Bible verse, something)...

But if they did that, pictured themselves all bright, shining, beaming, perhaps alluding to their future heavenly destiny -- then they'd really look like Gods! - because it would like they are elevating themselves too much!!! ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, it does put them in a nice Catch-22 situations doesn't it!

the gods who walk among us.... Yet people will believe this because they and the elders are the stars in Jesus' right hand.... The glorious ones....

Yet who appear together in shadowy light, who have darkened faces (perhaps showing that they are ever changeable/replaceable... as is any bOrg who is part of this billionaire real-estate and publishing collective....)